Friday, April 14, 2006

The Icetime vs Selanne

Selanne is clearly the principal threat on the Anaheim Mighty Ducks. They rely on this guy to win them games heavily, on the PP as well, but especially at 5on5.

So, since I know you all love charts :-) the Oilers icetime vs Selanne at 5on5, expressed as a percentage of Selannes 5on5 minutes.

First the D:

So, by way of example: 65% of Selanne's 5on5 icetime came against Pronger, and about 1% of it against Bergeron.

And the forwards:


That is all.

15 Comments:

Anonymous lowetide said...

Terrific stuff vic. I suspect those D pairings have legs.

Fair?

4/14/2006 1:18 pm  
Blogger Vic Ferrari said...

Ya, I think so, especially against COL, another team that relies a bunch on one forward.

I really liked the Moreau-Horcoff-Pisani line, and I think they would have a better than average chance of outscoring Sakic in the final game (if it is meaningful). But Smyth and Hemsky didn't seem to be able to generate much without him. Struggled to maintain possession of the puck in the offensive zone by my eye. I don't think that anyone who plays with Hemsky will end up being a + player over any stretch of games, not at this point with #83 anyways.

A shame, if Samsonov-Smyth-Hemsky could have done something with the non-Teemu minutes in the first half of the game ... that would have let the rest of the forward lines fall into place nicely.

4/14/2006 2:25 pm  
Anonymous namflashback said...

I think these pairings work well to match one-elite-line opponents like the Ducks. It might not play as well against a team like Detroit, but hey . . . it netted them the best defensive effort they have had in several games.

Also works well on home ice, but maybe not when the other team has last change. You might want to spread your strong defensive capability around when in that situation.

Here's an idea -- change pairings by period or game situation

1st period -- generate office
Pronger (home) - Bergeron (rush)
Smith (home) - Tarnstrom (rush)
Spacek (home) - Staios (rush)

2nd period -- hold the fort
Pronger (home) - Spacek (rush)
Smith (home) - Tarnstrom (rush)
Staios (home) - Bergeron(rush)

3rd period -- bring it home
Pronger (rush) - Smith (home)
Spacek (home) - Staios (rush)
Tarnstrom (stay home) - Bergeron(stay home)

4/14/2006 2:39 pm  
Blogger Dennis said...

Did anyone else think of me when Hemsky scored that goal;)? If you did...I hope you were wearing pants. Seriously though...remember when I was throwing out line combos and I had 12-16-83 as a line to use on home ice that wouldn't be ideal for matching but should generate some offense? To my mind that was the first time MacT put them together. And it certainly worked.

I watched last night's game until the first TV timeout in the second period and then I went out but I taped the game. So I took a look at it this afternoon and here's a few things I saw:

- Spacek is a mess right now. Constantly pinching. Is he coming back to earth, hurt or playing too many minutes? And for the love of gawd get him off the PP and replace him with Tarnstrom. Monday night's game means nothing...unless someone here wants to lose to Dallas again. Let's empty the cupboard come Monday, ie bring up Svyret, JFJ and sub in Winchester, Greene, Ulanov and one of Jussi or Ty, and in the meantime get a new PP worked out and work on the lines for Detriot.

- Unless it's the Franzen-Samuelsson-Cleary line...I will be frightened to death every time the 23-47 tandem is on the ice. But did anyone notice that at least in the first period MacT was playing them with the new Smyth line almost like a five man unit?

- Anyone notice that stretch where Peca played for nearly 2 minutes in a row? He came out with 13-27 and then stayed out to play a shift with 18-20. MacT had some crazy stuff going on in the last 30 min. Torres wasn't playing fuckall and I wonder how Samsanov was taking to splitting time with BG and Harvey on that 4th line? That's how it looked to me anyways. And he didn't seem overly excited when Hemsky scored the 2-1 goal.

- Two or three really good saves by Rolo and no bad rebounds. That's a good sign. At the other end that last goal was a killer but otherwise JSG was outstanding. That save he made off Pisani when 34 was falling down was born of perfect positioning.

- If you told Offensively Inept that he/she was like Dvorak..then OI would punch you in the face. My gawd how bad is Dvorak around the net. It should be studied. If someone offers him a little too much in the market then just let him go. I'm sick of him...the guy has less finish than Madonna's headboard.

4/14/2006 3:04 pm  
Blogger Dennis said...

Did anyone else think of me when Hemsky scored that goal;)? If you did...I hope you were wearing pants. Seriously though...remember when I was throwing out line combos and I had 12-16-83 as a line to use on home ice that wouldn't be ideal for matching but should generate some offense? To my mind that was the first time MacT put them together. And it certainly worked.

I watched last night's game until the first TV timeout in the second period and then I went out but I taped the game. So I took a look at it this afternoon and here's a few things I saw:

- Spacek is a mess right now. Constantly pinching. Is he coming back to earth, hurt or playing too many minutes? And for the love of gawd get him off the PP and replace him with Tarnstrom. Monday night's game means nothing...unless someone here wants to lose to Dallas again. Let's empty the cupboard come Monday, ie bring up Svyret, JFJ and sub in Winchester, Greene, Ulanov and one of Jussi or Ty, and in the meantime get a new PP worked out and work on the lines for Detriot.

- Unless it's the Franzen-Samuelsson-Cleary line...I will be frightened to death every time the 23-47 tandem is on the ice. But did anyone notice that at least in the first period MacT was playing them with the new Smyth line almost like a five man unit?

- Anyone notice that stretch where Peca played for nearly 2 minutes in a row? He came out with 13-27 and then stayed out to play a shift with 18-20. MacT had some crazy stuff going on in the last 30 min. Torres wasn't playing fuckall and I wonder how Samsanov was taking to splitting time with BG and Harvey on that 4th line? That's how it looked to me anyways. And he didn't seem overly excited when Hemsky scored the 2-1 goal.

- Two or three really good saves by Rolo and no bad rebounds. That's a good sign. At the other end that last goal was a killer but otherwise JSG was outstanding. That save he made off Pisani when 34 was falling down was born of perfect positioning.

- If you told Offensively Inept that he/she was like Dvorak..then OI would punch you in the face. My gawd how bad is Dvorak around the net. It should be studied. If someone offers him a little too much in the market then just let him go. I'm sick of him...the guy has less finish than Madonna's headboard.

4/14/2006 3:04 pm  
Blogger RiversQ said...

Hey anyone mind if I change the subtitle?

I was thinking of adding on: "IE users: The sidebar is 1.5 metres down on the right. Learn to love it." ;)

4/14/2006 4:19 pm  
Anonymous lowetide said...

RQ:

lol. Hey while we're talking blog, a question:

how do I put an address in an article and then type over it and make it stick?

Dumbest question available and cosh made fun of mlb for doing it but I don't know and I'm older than the lot of you so shut up and tell me.

4/14/2006 4:33 pm  
Blogger Vic Ferrari said...

Dennis said:

- Anyone notice that stretch where Peca played for nearly 2 minutes in a row? He came out with 13-27 and then stayed out to play a shift with 18-20. MacT had some crazy stuff going on in the last 30 min. Torres wasn't playing fuckall and I wonder how Samsanov was taking to splitting time with BG and Harvey on that 4th line? That's how it looked to me anyways. And he didn't seem overly excited when Hemsky scored the 2-1 goal.


I never noticed Samsonov's lack of joy, good observation Dennis. A guy always has to wonder about trade deadline acquisitions and how much commitment they have to the new team. How much they are really interested in taking a pounding in the playoffs for teammates that they barely know, in a city they don't know, living in a hotel room ... would they be as disappointed as most of the long term Oilers if they got to the golf course in April? I dunno. I'd like to think that Samsonov isn't like that. I'm pretty sure Nedved WAS like that, and not just because he was directly responsible for two goals in the last game against VAN in 04 ... just a feeling.

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On the Peca shift thing ... I missed that one Dennis, but early in the second a similar thing happened with Horcoff. I think Carlyle must have faked Selanne's line as the next bunch up, got them standing or tapped them on the shoulder so that whoever is looking for that (probably an off ice guy in the video room) made MacTavish believe that Teemu was coming over the boards next, so he threw out Moreau/Horcoff/Pisani on about one minute of rest. But Selanne never came over the boards until the next shift ... and MacTavish just kept that Oiler trio on the ice.

It was a that point that Ferraro mentioned that "MacTavish isn't trying to match forward lines tonight". Good Lord Ray, he had matched Horcoff's line uber aggressively up to that point. Looking at the shift chart reader, over 80% of Teemu's icetime was against 18-10-34 at the point Ferraro made the comment. And his remark is really what motivated me to make this post.

4/15/2006 10:59 am  
Blogger Vic Ferrari said...

Hey RiversQ ... is the sidebar working with IE now? I deleted a table on a post below and that seemed to make it work for my IE browser.

4/15/2006 11:31 am  
Blogger Vic Ferrari said...

LT:

I am spectacularly unqualified to answer HTML questions, but on the off chance that I have understood your question, I think that this is one of the handful of things I can do with blogger.

Do you want to have a word be clickable to another web page? If so, then in compose mode you highlight the word with your mouse, say the word "here". Then you clink the icon at the top that has the chain link in it. And type the url in the box that pops open, say "http://mc79hockey.com" for example.

Did I understand the question right, Lowetide?

4/15/2006 11:44 am  
Blogger speeds said...

vic, the sidebar is now at the top with IE.

4/15/2006 12:04 pm  
Anonymous lowetide said...

Vic:

You're brilliant. Now as soon as I get it right expect greatness.

ETA 2010.

4/15/2006 1:18 pm  
Blogger RiversQ said...

Vic Ferrari said...
Hey RiversQ ... is the sidebar working with IE now? I deleted a table on a post below and that seemed to make it work for my IE browser.


Was it really the Sagarin table? That was my theory after I did a few things to the template to no avail. It's funny that html would let you exceed the boundaries of the post body and then ditch the sidebar.

4/15/2006 3:14 pm  
Blogger Vic Ferrari said...

Rivers:

Ya, that was it. Tables are funny things with this blogger 'create post' system.

If it goes for a crap again, hopefully one of the IE6 users (you, speeds, anyone else?) can let me know straight away. So I can find the post that's the problem a little quicker, I assume that it will be me that efs it up again. :-)

4/15/2006 3:24 pm  
Blogger mudcrutch79 said...

Watching a bunch of people who know nothing about HTML (I include myself in this; it took me about 2 months to figure out how to make my site look decent before I turned on the lights there) is widly entertaining.

4/15/2006 6:03 pm  

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