Tuesday, January 02, 2007

Uh... WHAT?!?!



Am I nuts or did I just hear that the Oilers picked up Petr Nedved off re-entry waivers?

Petr Nedved? WHAT?!?!

Does anybody wonder if management has been watching this team for the last five games?

Does anybody else wonder if management even watched Nedved during the 2003-2004 stretch drive?

Nedved is probably exactly what this team does not need right now. If they manage to turn it around without another move it'll be due to the fact that several Oiler forwards get back to doing what they do well. I'm not sure Nedved's apathy will inspire them to do that.

27 Comments:

Blogger She said...

Rumour has it Muckler wanted him in Ottawa, seeing as they have no centres left. I smell a trade a' comin'.

1/02/2007 11:39 am  
Blogger PDO said...

Er... what the fuck?

Outside of that, I can see SOME sense in this.

We've yet to find anyone who can play with Sykora and Hemsky. Nedved seems like a guy who should be able to play with them...

But that line. At 5x5?! I think I'll cry.

The PP could be interesting though..

- PDO

1/02/2007 11:49 am  
Blogger SweatyO said...

This move does not stand alone in my mind. Granted, I don't mind it because it's low-risk in the salary department, and Nedved liked it here first time around (although his wife had a case of what is now known as "Laurenprongeritis").

The bigger picture is what's important here. If Nedved can find some chemistry with Sykora on a soft-minutes line and Hemsky is back with Smyth and Horcoff, MAYBE this opens the door a little for Lowe to dangle Lupul for a Seabrook, Michalek or even a Boumeester.

Crazier shit has happened.

Oh, and the Lil' John picture? Good call.

1/02/2007 12:02 pm  
Blogger SweatyO said...

To follow this up: Thoresen assigned to Wilkes-Barre, according to the Oiler website.

Methinks that's a temporary assignment. He'll be back.

1/02/2007 12:25 pm  
Blogger PDO said...

Maybe Lowe is about to deal Stoll?

I'm just turning it over in my head, and if Nedved can replace Stoll on the PP, and Horcoff and Reasoner can play the tough minutes, and Nedved can have the softie's...

94-10-83
71-93-15
14-19-36

1/02/2007 12:38 pm  
Blogger SweatyO said...

bk: If they're pimping Stoll for a trade right now, they better be getting Joni Fucking Pitkanen for him (mostly so I can re-crest my Pronger jersey, but that's besides the point).

I think it might be more likely that they'd try to hustle a d-man out of someone right now for a package surrounding Joffrey Lupul. What could Lupul, MAB and a 1st land them?

1/02/2007 1:08 pm  
Blogger dynastydays said...

Stoll being traded in the wake of adding Nedved? Very unlikely. Very.

Take it for what its worth, a cheap gamble. Nedveds age isnt an issue and he has had success in Edmonton. He can fill a soft minute centre roll and may enable Sykora to be productive w/o Hemmer (if Ales gets moved to play with Horc and Smyth again)

I smell a trade a comin' but its likely going to be a MAP + pick or something around that mark for defensive help.

I don't dislike this move as much as RQ seems to. Ignoring a valid point about nedved not going to motivate by example, but I dont think we need to add that player anyways so its kinda moot.

What it does add, is a bit more flexibility down the middle. Im not suggesting Petr could move anywhere other than soft 2nd line minutes with Sykora, but it does allow MacT to weigh Stoll/Horc/Reasoners play against one another.

From the perspective of a month ago and looking at tomorrows roster. With Stollies emergence, Nedved is essentially the Stoll that broke camp with us, This new #16 guy really suprising a lot of people. #10 can breathe a little easier now, or atleats MacT can when he has to let #10 sit out a few shifts.

Again, at worst its a low risk low return move.

1/02/2007 1:17 pm  
Blogger Dennis-IOF said...

Why send down 28 instead of 20? 94's back killing penalties now so that makes 20's only real skill redundant. I guess they could be worried about losing him on waivers but I doubt that would happen.

We just read about the old 94-10-83 line being reunited so maybe Nedved's brought here to try and spark 71 in 83's stead.

I'd imagine that in the long run this means the old 10 line and the current 16 line playing tough min. Nedved/Skyora plus playing soft min and then 78/19 on the 4th line. It means that a forward's going out for a dman and Nedved's here to take that guys place and hold 71's hand as MacT goes back to his old security blanket.

The next move should be interesting.

1/02/2007 1:20 pm  
Blogger SweatyO said...

Dennis: this REEKS of something eventually happening with Lupul when you put it in that context.

And really, out of the three young forwards the Oilers have that might be trade bait for a d-man (Torres, Stoll, Lupul) would you rather move 14 or 16 than 15 right now?

Didn't think so.

At least this is how I hope it plays out. Lupul plus Bergeron and a 1st could fetch a pretty good young D-man, in my opinion.

1/02/2007 1:32 pm  
Blogger dynastydays said...


Dennis-IOF said...
Why send down 28 instead of 20? 94's back killing penalties now so that makes 20's only real skill redundant. I guess they could be worried about losing him on waivers but I doubt that would happen.


Thoresen is probably a more valuable asset in developmental terms. Him playing a bigger role in WBS instead of limited minutes in e-town isnt a bad thing right now.

We're not doing any damage with limiting Peterson's playing time.

1/02/2007 1:37 pm  
Blogger Andy Grabia said...

It's a great move, because it is value neutral at worst, and value added at best. It frees up assets that can be moved, if needed. It'll cost probably less than $500K in the end. He's great on the PP. And Sykora now has someone else to play with. Even if he stinks, he's no worse than MAP, JFJ, Winchester, Peterson and Magni.

1/02/2007 1:40 pm  
Blogger PDO said...

Well, Anaheim showed us that Lupul, Smid and a 1st gets you Pronger for 4 years..

So Lupul, MAB and a 1st..

Aucoin? Vishnovsky? Boyle? Rozsival? A. Ward?

1/02/2007 1:44 pm  
Blogger Steven said...

I know it's a low cost move. I know it might be a precursor to a bigger move. But did we really need to get softer up front? Did we really needed to lose more puck battles on the boards? I can see Calgary licking their chops wanting to hit us out of the rink.

The only way I can see this working is Nedved plays about 5-10 mins ES time and gets mondo PP time. I'm guessing that's what we're going to see. At least he should help the anemic PP.

1/02/2007 2:07 pm  
Blogger Dennis-IOF said...

I personally think the PP would be fine if we just left 15-16 on the points and went with 83-10-94 down low but MacT tried that very early and almost just as early abanondoned it. Now he's obsessed with giving away times to guys like Bergy, Staios, Tanqvist and sometimes even Smid. Ty mentioned it on his site but the whole thing on NYE where MacT called a TO with the Oil still on the PP and then sent out 24-15-5...I would've cursed a blue streak if I wasn't starting to become accoustomed to the Oilers and their gameplan.

1/02/2007 3:25 pm  
Blogger oilerdiehard said...

Dennis-IOF said...

I personally think the PP would be fine if we just left 15-16 on the points and went with 83-10-94 down low but MacT tried that very early and almost just as early abanondoned it. Now he's obsessed with giving away times to guys like Bergy, Staios, Tanqvist and sometimes even Smid. Ty mentioned it on his site but the whole thing on NYE where MacT called a TO with the Oil still on the PP and then sent out 24-15-5...I would've cursed a blue streak if I wasn't starting to become accoustomed to the Oilers and their gameplan.


Absolutely Sykora and Stollie on the points is what I have been wanting to see again for quite a while. If we are going to have a PP that is obsessed with the point shot, let us at least put the guys back there that have the best chance of getting it done.

Speaking of Stoll, my boy is getting it done all over the ice. A lot of people said there was no way he would come close to repeating last seasons offensive totals. He sits at 33 points in 39 games. Not too shabby.

Poor ole Horc. 9 shots tonight and nuttin'

1/02/2007 9:44 pm  
Blogger RiversQ said...

oilerdiehard said...

Speaking of Stoll, my boy is getting it done all over the ice. A lot of people said there was no way he would come close to repeating last seasons offensive totals. He sits at 33 points in 39 games. Not too shabby.


Oh yeah? Who said that around here? A lot of people around here thought Stoll was going to get cushy minutes and do something with them. Funny enough, he's been the total opposite - he was terrible while taking the soft minutes during the first 20 games.

Speaking of your "boys," how about Smid? You still want to take credit for that one?

1/02/2007 9:57 pm  
Blogger PDO said...

Rivers, you live in Atlanta, don't you?

You have no idea how lucky you are. Listen to any radio show for 5 minutes...

Ladislav Smid is the best defenseman on this team.

Steve Staios, MA Bergeron and Jason Smith are the problems on the back end, in that order.

Seriously.

- PDO

1/02/2007 10:15 pm  
Blogger Dennis-IOF said...

16 is the most pleasent surprise by my eye. I'm on the record as saying he really disappointed me last spring. He was getting soft min and he basically did nothing with them.

But once 83 and 94 went out a light came on for Stoll and he's been getting the job done in a big way. I can't ever remember him being this physical at any other time during his Oilers career.

The whole thing with Smid is laughable. The whole toothache excuse is lore as far as my book's concerned.

The Oilers brass can be pretty pathetic at times and that was never more apparent than when the tooth fairy took the blame for guys going around Smid like he was standing still.

1/02/2007 10:42 pm  
Blogger Bank Shot said...

riversq said-Oh yeah? Who said that around here? A lot of people around here thought Stoll was going to get cushy minutes and do something with them.

Uhh the folks from this site were crucifying Stoll in the offseason. It was said he didn't deserve his $2 million, that he's only a third liner with a shot, that Pouliot would be able to do just as well as Stoll with the soft minutes, that Stoll didn't do enough with soft minutes, that Reasoner would be second on the depth charts this season above Stoll. On and on.

Anyways hopefully Nedved can spark the powerplay. The lack of finish there has been costing the Oilers games. That and the defense, but if there are no defenders availible I'm glad that Lowe did something rather then just sit on his hands.

1/02/2007 10:44 pm  
Blogger Slipper said...

Stoll's a veritable bargain on this roster at two million dollars. Is there anyone on the Oiler's right now who's not making two million dollars?

I really think JS might have read that post a couple weeks ago by Rivs questioning whether or not to keep him around because by my eye he's played pretty well ever since. That was right before The Monster game if I recall correctly. I think the + improvement to his game has alot to do with #14, and the - improvement has alot to do #34. They all seem to complement each other well. I think playing stiffer opponents might have been the spark. I can't support this in any way, but certain personality types need to be challenged to be engaged.

Does anyone think Ryan Smyth is cherry picking alot more this season, and that it's most likely motivated by his contract?

All the debate over #21 made me go over to the NHLPA site and gaze over his career stats. DAMN! Has the guy ever had an impressive run for the Oilers, huh? I was shocked to find out he played a short stint with Sacramento of the NCAA during the lockout year. What a stone hands though, 270 shots in 8 games and nothing to show for it.

Cut and paste:
http://nhlpa.com/WebStats/PlayerBiography.asp?ID=5248

1/02/2007 11:25 pm  
Blogger allan said...

RiversQ Oh yeah? Who said that around here? A lot of people around here thought Stoll was going to get cushy minutes and do something with them.

Bank Shot Uhh the folks from this site were crucifying Stoll in the offseason. It was said he didn't deserve his $2 million, that he's only a third liner with a shot,

BS, I fail to see the conflict between these positions. Those comments combine to explain the opinion I've had of Stoll for the past year, and they seem to reflect the general consensus around here in the summer, too.

1/03/2007 9:14 am  
Blogger Asiaoil said...

This is a key year for Stoll and lots of people around here (me included )expected himto step up and:

a) take on tougher minutes

b) be a leader, and

c) do more with any soft minutes he gets.

He's done all of the above and is earning his cash - so where's the controversy.

1/03/2007 1:14 pm  
Blogger RiversQ said...

Oh there is some controversy regarding Stoll. He sucked for the first 20 games and was ripped appropriately. However, he's now playing easily the best hockey of his career IMO, so some of the earlier comments that I made are being taken a little out of context.

It's an amazing turnaround really. I wonder what brought it on? I mean, how do you finish -1 after the first 21 games while playing soft opposition and then come out to play the 2nd quarter of the season as Stoll has done? Right now, it's painfully obvious when that Torres-Stoll-Pisani line is out there against soft opposition because it looks like they're playing against Bantam kids. (Take the Colorado game for example - they carried the play against the decent lines and proceeded to absolutely stuff Brett McLean's line into their own crease for most of the game) What provokes a guy into turning his game around like that? Surely Pisani's presence on the line has something to do with it, but Torres' performances are still mostly up and down. I guess Stoll took the Hemsky/Smyth injuries to heart. Maybe MacT had a chat with him too? Strange stuff, IMO.

1/03/2007 1:48 pm  
Blogger Steven said...

I don't know exactly what brought upon the change in play for Stoll but I do remember seeing something on Sportsnet where they interviewed him and he said something along the lines that Him and Raffi had decided that they should have "clean living" or refocus more on hockey. It was something along those lines and I do remember it happening around the time of those Hemsky/Smyth injuries.

I don't really think there was any controversy either. I mean he was playing bad earlier and we were slagging him for it. He's playing pretty terrific now and we're praising him. Don't see much controversy there.

If anything we found a new whipping boy in Lupul :)

Now if he wants to turn around and become like Stoll that'll really make me eat some crow.

1/03/2007 3:17 pm  
Blogger oilerdiehard said...

RiversQ said...



Speaking of your "boys," how about Smid? You still want to take credit for that one?


hehe Well Smid has not been good lately, in fact in some games pretty terrible. I have admitted that on the boards and LT's blog post area. But he has not been anywhere close overall to as utterly garbage as some like to make out and I certainly still stand by the fact that he is going to a very good D man in this league. I said that before the season and I will say it now, so I'll take credit for that, sure.

1/03/2007 6:08 pm  
Blogger Dennis-IOF said...

I don't think Smid's been utter garbage but he's certainly been garbage.

The emergence of 16 has been great to see because I was ready to get all over him this year. He'd enjoyed soft min last spring and basically did fuckall with them after the Det series. Now he's getting paid and I was ready to break out the knives, the long ones too;), if he didn't start to make some noise this year.

And he really wasn't before 94 went down that night vs CBJ and then a light went on. I've never seen him be this physical or tenacious over such a long stretch of time.

1/03/2007 7:25 pm  
Blogger Vic Ferrari said...

I think it's a good move, given the remaining salary. Nedved is what he is, and he isn't going to change. But you can say the same for Turgeon and Arnason, and Quenneville has gotten mileage out of them in the right role. I expect the same from Nedved with MacTavish here. I'll also fearlessly predict that in the 2nd period (the long change period) on the road Nedved will see less ice than the 4th line. And that radio talk show callers will learn to love Petr all over again within a few short weeks.

1/04/2007 1:25 pm  

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